so sometime late last year the tope-rope problem(written up in craglets) that exists on harlequin buttress between beamans direct and harlequin had bolts added(hangers) to make the route possible as a lead route. basically im looking for some discussion as to what others opinions are about these. i am well keen to get rid of these hanger. of course id return them to the person who put them there. basically i think having big hangers all over a buttress that has been climbed on heaps before lessens the over-all quality of the area. note: the rap bolts above harlequin an now above beamans dont fall in the same catergory. i hope its only our northern friends that cant distinguish between lead bolts and abseil bolts. also i dont think every piece of rock needs to be lead, it was a fine TR problem that does wonders for slab climbing techniques but having it as a lead route doesnt add anything to the area. again big bits of steel dont make that place any better.

with some of the recent developments (light fingered maddison bolts) and now these ones makes me scared as to where that path can lead. i know ive placed as many bolts as the rest of them, but ill always be open to critique if anyone has any.

i'll be heading back that way soon and im keen to get some opinions from everyone as to what what everyone else thinks. i know i speak for many when i say the hangers should be removed. i think we've had enough done for the greater good without discussion so im not going to do anything without consultation.

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simon young